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been to this place twice. lots of room in this dancy, trancy place....but don't ask the DJ for requests - he'll inform you he's been told waht to play by the management. but how many remixes of "disturbia" does the world really need? in such cases, go to the lounge adjacent to the main dance room. MIND THE PATIO! it's small, cramped, and resembles a gay petting zoo from the street: "mommy, can i feed the gays some power pellets? heard they are packed with vitamin 'HEEEYYY'!"

while the bar is spacious, the liquor cheap and the bartenders friendly, ain't a whole lot to do at this place unless you know how to two-step to "countrified" pop songs. you have to wait til at LEAST 12:30am on weekend nights for dance music to come on. before that, you get to watch 12 people take up the entire dance floor for about 3 hours of line dancing only THEY know the steps to. you can also play volleyball there on sundays at 4:30p....IF the unfriendly regulars rotate you in.

bar staff is pretty darn friendly. nice patio, but it's usually filled with smoke. the crowd? eh. lots of needlessly snooty scottsdale uber-twinks who have a few too many hollister/abercromble shirts. sunday night karaoke crowd is nice, though.

bar staff? aloof but efficient. this feels like the last outpost for gays who think they're "it" but kind of aren't. TOO MANY GIRLS. and i'm not talking 'bout our lesbian sisters...i'm talking about drunk straight girls in overtaxed miniskirts smooshing their way throught the crowd and being super loud and obnoxious. gays stay in their "pods" at this place and it's hard to meet new folks here. the dance music needs some work