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Its not the same...
The clientel is young, messy and loud. The drinks are expensive and the music is so loud that you can't hear the person you are talking with.. So not a place to have enjoyable meal and conversation. They do tend to get carried away with the decerations as it looks like a circus from the street..
Lost its lust..
It sucks now.. The clientel is much younger and messy, the twinks dance to Hip Hop being played on the music box.. They don't even drink, just hanging out and being loud .. This is no longer a Mans bar!! And not an attractive groupe of guys.. If you want men, seach out Levi, leather / bear nights around town!! Or the Hole on sundays..