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PLEASE READ what I said about "Club Hot". It's the same for this shitty bar. Since it is in the same establishment. I highly do NOT recommend the place. Maybe for just a pass through if they serve your ass....

I have lived in the Pittsburgh area for about 6 years now. I've been through quite a bit since I moved here. When I first moved here I have'nt hit up the bars nor clubs until like after a year of living here. Now, yes I am from a bigger city with a decent gay scene/community and even a well known gay neighborhood. So I grew used to that . I know Pittsburgh is a smaller major city or semi-major city so the GLBT establishments are small far and few inbetween compared to larger cities or some other cities the same size. Due to the fact that Pittsburgh is eclectic, and somewhat artsy you would think it would have alot more resources then it does. I must say it is progressing. It has alot of potential though. But due to this cities past , economic situation, and decline of population the mentality of the natives are kinda behind. Especially in race relations.... Saloon and Club Hot "now Tilden" was not the first bar/club I have went to. But I went there with my ex and friends numorous times when the saloon first opened in '06 and club hot upstairs with out any membership. I NEVER liked NEITHER from the get go. They are both small crampy, most of staff is rude, and the only reason why I went as of recently is because Tilden is UNFORTUNETLY the most popular after hours gay spot in town. I am a 29 y/o well educated BLACK gay male who is known to be very friendly, polite, down to earth, and fun loving. I always like to make people around me laugh, be comfortable and have fun. I haven't ever had membership to Tilden but always got in especially when I'm with friends. I have heard a couple rumors that the owner as well as some of staff were kind of RACIST and stand offish to blacks and other people that were perhaps not attractive. Which is not uncommon in the gay scene no matter what city you're in. But there are blacks in there all the time. Atleast everytime I've went there. simply due to the fact that discrimination is illegal.... So they try to keep in on the hush hush. There have been times that I've been to either saloon or tilden where I was patiently waiting to be served by a bartender and I was obviously ignored and or skipped over. Which I haven't let get to me. If I felt that was happening I just go to the other bartender or another bar all together. And that happened to me again on Friday night Oct 2nd when I went in 941 Saloon to just ask for membership and then a beer. The bar was pretty unusually empty, and the stool I was sitting at not many people were close by. I was STILL not being tended to until about 5 minutes. As of recently due to me being single again, and starting to go there frequently on Fri, and or Sat nights I decided to try to get membership. I was told TWICE that no cards were available and to come back another day when the will be. But I was still alowed to Tilden (after hours required membership) upstairs this last Friday night Oct 2nd by some women bouncer that I've never seen before which was nice and not uncommon. Now like most people I tend to go there TIPSY since the damn place is so shitty. Like I said its a spot where most of the gay club goers and bar hoppers end up on a Fri or Sat night, and that's the ONLY reason why I go up there. So went in the the club and got a ginger ale at the back bar, then chilled socialized and decided to get the final drink of the night at the crowded front bar. The bartender who was behind it was the guy who took super long to tend to be downstairs earlier that evening. It was packed but he was tending to everyone in a pretty orderly fashion EXCEPT me and 2 other black boys that night. I noticed it right away. I had to tap him a few times to get his attention in order to get served. Then he served this white kid in which I knew before who came before me. I WENT OFF.... me being tipsy didn't help. He finally served me. Then I noticed he STILL did not serve the black kid next to me. I told the kid in which I did'nt know that "its ok, I'll get him for you". When I finally got the asswholes attention I just cursed him out. In return he charged out of bar to get help to kick me out. So I got escorted out. turned around to inform woman bouncer who happened to be manager or owner what happened, and she said "I don't what your talking about we have plenty of black people that come in here all of the time" in which they do. But you can tell by the look in her eyes and body language that she knew that I my being kicked out was racially motivated she just didn't wanna atmit it to avoid a law suit. Anyways, I will look into seeing what I can do to see if that place can be investigated. Because what happened that evening to me was WRONG. And there really is no ROOM for a DL racism in establishments ESPECIALLY in the GAY COMMUNITY. I know the alot of caucasians in Pittsburgh are full of bigotry but WE'RE ALL GAY HERE. I STRONGLY recommend whoever reads this to boycott 941 Saloon & Tilden. Believe me compared to the other more popular bars in the city you won't be missing a DAMN THING.