http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ GayCities Forums » Forum: The Lobby Bar - Recent Posts en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:55:21 +0000 http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/what-are-your-travel-plans-this-year#post-1236 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:38:20 +0000 edwinarmstrong 1236@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>I am new here to Seattle and I am really enjoying it here. Can anyone give me some travel plans. LOL </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-cruise-mediterrean#post-1234 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:22:14 +0000 rhea 1234@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>we have here'''' for becoming fans to all gays in the worldddddddddddddddd </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-cruise-mediterrean#post-1230 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:25:16 +0000 BBUC 1230@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>RJJK, We have never done the Gay cruise and honestly I don't know if I would want to be around a ship of Gay men for a week, sure they can be fun so I can't knock them but also know it doesn't appeal to me either. </p> <p>We are taking NCL's Mediterranean Cruise on the Gem ship in May from Venice to Dubrovnik,Croatia.. Athens,Greece.. Izmir, Turkey.. Naphlion, Greece and back to Venice, Italy. If anyone has info on this it would be nice. Its a free cruise basically through visits to Vegas and so we couldn't pass up the trip. Not familiar with NCL cruises at all, ship seems pretty nice. Thanks for any replies. </p> <p>If you decide to go same cruise we are definitley get in touch with us.. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/what-are-your-travel-plans-this-year#post-1229 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:15:08 +0000 BBUC 1229@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Hey Scott, Roger &amp; I have plans for Spain-Madrid and Barcelona in April and the to Venice Italy before catching Mediterranean cruise to Croatia, Greece and Turkey. Would be fun to run into you in Spain, we will be there at end of April. Send a message to let us know your plans. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/puerto-vallarta-be-wary-of-the-corrupt-police#post-1225 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:50:22 +0000 NYstateofmind51 1225@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>I am sorry to have to report this story, but this happened to me and a friend during our stay in P.V. last week. The hotels involved (where we stayed) are taking very serious action with the local Tourist Board, the mayor, and other officials. I have also involved the US Consulate through Consular Kelly Trainor in P.V. who knows all about this and is taking action with the police department and is keeping in touch with me about this horrible incident..... </p> <p>It's long but important to read, and bear in mind that the bottom line is that the police were trying to extort me and my friend from our money (they succeeded with my friend), and could have possibly tried to hide drugs in our clothing or who knows what else. Many local people and tourists confirmed after the fact that they were not really checking us for drugs. Yes, police corruption in Mexico is very real- we experienced it first hand. Think twice about visiting Puerto Vallarta. After my 4th trip to Mexico, I can't think about going back at this point......<br /> (PS- I am leaving out the names of the hotel owners/managers for their privacy. </p> <p>Here is the letter I sent below......<br /> =======================================<br /> Dear Mr. ___________: </p> <p>I am writing you at this time from my room at The Hotel Abbey where I am on vacation from January<br /> 23 - 31, 2010. </p> <p>This is a written description of the events that took place on Monday morning, January 25, 2010 around<br /> 2:10 am which you requested from me. </p> <p>I was leaving by foot from Club Manana approximately 2:00 am in the morning on 1/25th with a friend who was also part of my group. He was staying at The Blue Chairs hotel. </p> <p>He said he knew how to get back to the hotel by foot and that it was fairly close so we decided to walk. </p> <p>We made a stop at a store called “Oxxo” near the hotel, to pick up some fruit and food. After leaving Oxxo, we weren't exactly sure which direction our hotel was in so we were crossing the street not sure if we needed to make a right or a left. </p> <p>Within moments a white truck with an open back came by with two gentlemen, my friend thought they were stopping to help give us directions and I asked for directions to The Blue Chairs but I can't recall what they said and because I do not speak Spanish, I didn't grasp what they were trying to tell us. My friend thought they were asking to give us a ride in their truck to the hotel, which I wouldn't have accepted even if that were the case. </p> <p>Within another minute or two a police car came from the other direction and two or three policemen came out and started to question us and go thru our possessions for no reason apparent to either of us. There were now a total of five policeman on the scene detaining us from going back to our hotels. (The white truck, mentioned in the paragraph above was not marked as a police truck to the best of my recollection but contained two policemen in uniform which was very obvious when they stepped out to join the police officers that exited the car). The police car had it's red and blue lights flaring. </p> <p>I was asked for identification so I gave the officer my drivers license from my small wallet where I kept my paper money. He looked at it and I motioned for him to give it back to me and then he asked me to put my hands up on the side of the truck where he opened all of the pockets in my cargo shorts and began removing the contents partially with my assistance and also on his own. These shorts have ten pockets in total and I had items in about six of the ten pockets. </p> <p>I was fearful that I would not see my drivers license again, in addition to my other property and had no idea what may occur next knowing there was absolutely reason to have been stopped and searched to begin with. </p> <p>The officer took out the case for my glasses, my hotel room key, my camera, my bottle of Visine for my eyes, and then took out my wallet and counted all of the individual bills in front of me which was rather unsettling. I watched every move he made and was terrified with what was transpiring. He had no reason to stop me, let alone check my clothing , open my pockets , and feel my clothing with his hands. </p> <p>I have no idea what he thought he would find, but there was nothing to find other than what I described above. </p> <p>My friend was not next to me but was nearby and was receiving a similar interrogation from one of the other officers. </p> <p>The officers were all were fairly short in height, and were probably in their late 20's to early 30's. </p> <p>It is important to note that I was totally sober, having no alcohol, only Diet Coke from 4 :00 in the afternoon until late that evening. My speech was not incomprehensible, I was not staggering in my walk, and was totally coherent. There was absolutely no reason to be stopped and harassed in this manner. </p> <p>My friend and I were detained for about 10 minutes when they finally let us go. </p> <p>He walked me to the corner of my hotel, I was feeling horrified and humiliated and then he proceeded to go to his hotel, the Blue Chairs. </p> <p>I told the man on duty at the desk of the Abbey what just occurred and he asked me if I had the police cars numbers or officers names. Needless to say, I had no pen, and couldn't even think straight about what was happening let alone get any identifying information. He made a report in a log book that you keep at the desk. </p> <p>The next morning, (around 10:30 a.m), I came to see you to report this abusive incident. </p> <p>I was never told my rights from the police officers, told why I was being searched, or given explanation at all. </p> <p>I am a U.S. Citizen, and being in a foreign country and not speaking the language, I felt I had better cooperate with the police since I had no clue what may transpire next. </p> <p>When I got back to my hotel room, I checked all of my possessions and realized everything was intact, including my cash as I was very careful to watch the actions of the police officer go thru all of my bills. </p> <p>Today, my friend who was staying at the Blue Chairs after checking his wallet was not as lucky. </p> <p>I have to say that I have lived and traveled around the world for the past 30 years and have NEVER<br /> experienced anything quite like this in my life. </p> <p>As I told you today, if I have one more incident like this, I am on the next flight back to New York, and I can tell you now (even though it is the beginning of my trip) I can't consider coming back to Puerto Vallarta again the way that I am feeling right now, as this has truly been a traumatic experience and not something I would ever anticipate happening to me on vacation. </p> <p>I was made to feel like a criminal and it was embarrassing, humiliating , and possibly the worst travel experience I have had in my fifty one years of living. </p> <p>This is not a good indication for future visitors to your city, nor to any of my family members or friends in New York that I may choose to tell about incident. </p> <p>I also reported this to the manager of the Blue Chairs hotel. </p> <p>I realized how upsetting this is and I am hoping you and the Tourist Authority will do right be me in addition to the apology you already gave me. I prefer not to take this story any further to the Mexican Consulate in New York, any of the gay hotel travel organizations, etc., but I truly feel that your hotel in conjunction with the local Tourist Authorities can figure out a way within the next few days to try to turn this situation around for me which requires more than an apology. I am very stressed about this and even though I try not to think about it, it's on my mind here all during my vacation. </p> <p>It is one thing if I was doing anything wrong, but I was with another tourist in a tourist area, 3 blocks from my hotel and am the least likely candidate that should be stopped and harassed. If it is unsafe (unsafe from the police) to walk 3 blocks away from the hotel at night, I think the guests need to be told this. </p> <p>Near the same street where this incident occurred there were drunken men nearby, prostitutes, and other unsavory characters that are the people you need to worry about in the vicinity of the tourists. </p> <p>I look to the police for safety, protection, and guidance, and now this has completely turned my thinking upside down during my stay in Puerto Vallarta and has made this tourist paranoid of the police here. This is very wrong. </p> <p>I await your prompt response, </p> <p>AM<br /> New York, NY </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-cruise-mediterrean#post-1219 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:39:06 +0000 YourPalPete 1219@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>We did a mainstream Mediterranean cruise on Royal Caribbean. It was a two week loop out of Barcelona, and a wonderful experience. To tell you the truth, we were so busy with the ports that there wasn't a whole lot of time for socializing. But we did meet some other gay people on the cruise. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-cruise-mediterrean#post-1212 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:40:09 +0000 blondeq 1212@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>We did the Atlantis Med Cruise a couple of years ago. I would highly recommend it. The Mediterranean cruises are considerably less 'cruisy' than say the Mexican cruises. There is a good mix of every gay man you can imagine and I found that everyone was very friendly. For those days at sea, Atlantis does a great job of coordinating lots of activities. I agree with your statement that it is appealing to have a sense of community and certainly, to be able to hold hands and give each other a peck in public is comforting. Also, it is interesting that you will find the staff on these ships eager to help you. Gay cruises are notorious for much higher tipping levels then the regular straight cruises and staff usually have to bid well in advance to get the gay bookings. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-cruise-mediterrean#post-1190 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:49:51 +0000 rjjk 1190@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>My bf and I are considering a Mediterranean cruise this summer, as that's always been a dream. We are not sure if we should go on a 'straight' or gay cruise. If there's anyone who's been on a gay cruise in this area, could you let me know how you enjoyed it (or not). We are not looking to hook up, but the sense of community on a gay cruise is appealing. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond. Cheers. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/hair#post-1181 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:22:18 +0000 JDANDVICTOR1 1181@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>No my marketing is not a problem, All I'm saying is that we always tray to support gay establishments since we are gay,We have been in business for almost 9 years and we are opening two more hair studios by the end of this year,and I just wanted to know if it would be a good thing if i open one in the gay strip? </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/hair#post-1178 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:48:17 +0000 Jerzy 1178@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>So what do u care if their str8t as long as the money's comn-in &amp; it pays bills &amp; puts food on the table be grateful with that..insofar as gays not patronizing your business maybe you have marketing problem?? </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/hair#post-1174 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:10:22 +0000 JDANDVICTOR1 1174@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Hi my name is Victor from JD and Victor's Hair Studio, my Topic is, why don't we have more gay supporting small business like us,Are customers that walk in are business are all straight people </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/bar-guys#post-1137 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:40:33 +0000 JhonieAppleseed37 1137@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Does this guy sort of remind you of that older guy you see.<br /> The one sitting at the bar? And trying to hold an interesting conversation?</p> <p><a href="http://television.aol.com/tvtop5/homers-top-ten-late-show/60905263001;jsessionid=EB3CF4296D5B762BEF8B0C285130679F" rel="nofollow">http://television.aol.com/tvtop5/homers-top-ten-late-show/60905263001;jsessionid=EB3CF4296D5B762BEF8B0C285130679F</a> </p> <p>I post this so as to not lose 11 th, post.<br /> <a href="http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/looking-for-mr-new-york" rel="nofollow">http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/looking-for-mr-new-york</a> </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1129 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:10:10 +0000 matdamjam19 1129@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>I discovered i was gay when i saw myself naked in the mirror, about age 12. Boys older than myself where trying to screw me. Bill A. was 17, and Eddie was 25. I knew both their friends. I was much more curvier than their, girlfriends. I always kept the attention of older boys, even when not trying. This made my brothers and older cousins upset alot. They could never bring their homeboys around to family gatherings. And younger boys (who where noticeably gay like kissing me). </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1124 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:15:50 +0000 willbullock09 1124@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>the fifth grade when I had a really big crush on Kurt :) he was so hot! I remember wanting to touch him and see his body, thats when I new i liked boys :) </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1119 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:52:13 +0000 skeeta 1119@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Judy Garland was singing 'Over the Rainbow' on the little radio in the Delivery Room. When the doctor held me up high by the ankles and slapped me on the bare ass, I boned up. That's when I knew! </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1110 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:29:24 +0000 LNKGuy1966 1110@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>I remember having vivid wet dreams of men when I was a kid. Between then and now, I had fantasies about men and I was always checking them out but unfortunately I took the "straight" path for 12 years and married the woman I loved. After she divorced me, I knew it was time to come out and be myself. Since the divorce, I have enjoyed exploring my sexuality as a gay man. </p> <p>In retrospect, I was always gay. I think a person knows from a very early age. It's just whether or not they act upon their feelings or are allowed to act. Unless you are in a relationship, explore your sexuality. Ultimately, you won't be happy with yourself until you come to terms with who you are. Good luck! </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/palm-springs-white-party#post-1107 Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:31:49 +0000 Jerzy 1107@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Five-of us from chicago are going..anybody else??..was there last year it was a blast..PS its a party-town... </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1090 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:27:22 +0000 Jimmyjam29621 1090@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>I have known ever since i can remember. I am totally 100% gay. Maybe you are a bi-sexual and just discovering your attraction to men? It is different for everyone. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1085 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:28:08 +0000 RobbDelman 1085@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>My experience was very similar to 'ftwcarman' (above), except when I was in 3rd grade, I had a neighbor in his teens who liked to 'display' himself and I couldn't get enough. I still remember the first time he let me touch it, through a chain link fence in the backyard. Belive me, you KNOW, you just KNOW. Dont fight it, and good luck. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/how-did-you-discover-your-own-gayness#post-1016 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:59:12 +0000 CHER520 1016@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>FOR MYSELF I ALWAYS KNEW. BUT MY FAMILY WAS VERY VERY RELIGIOUS SO IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO TAKE THAT STEP. I DID TWO YEARS AGO. YES IT WAS COMPLICATED AND IT IS A PROCESS. I WAS MARRIED TO A MAN.....BUT I KNEW I WAS BISEXUAL....AND THERE WAS A WOMAN I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN. ALSO MY MARRIAGE WAS EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE....SO TAKING THAT FIRST STEP WAS LIKE JUMPING OFF A CLIFF AND I DISCOVERED........I CAN FLY!!!!! MY ADVICE FOR YOU LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF... COMING "OUT" IS A PROCESS OF SELF DISCOVERY. IF YOU ARE GAY TAKE THAT JOURNEY OF FINDING YOURSELF. WHEN YOU REACH THAT MOST INNER PART OF YOURSELF. YOU WILL KNOW, THERE IS A WORD IN JAPANESE "KOKORO". TRANSLATED IT IS THAT CORE, HEART, SPIRIT. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/oral-038-glory-hole-clubs-nationwide#post-1013 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:36:53 +0000 philsback 1013@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>i love servicing guys at gh's or video stores :P </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/american-airlines-15-bag-check-fee#post-1001 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:44:29 +0000 shauna 1001@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>need a man for get maried whit me please someone to help me i need to live in usa in castro my dream and my wich please jhonieaplese help me .<br /> and when you found someone for me plaese a nice and buytifful man for me i have a plaesend for you </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/american-airlines-15-bag-check-fee#post-1000 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:43:38 +0000 shauna 1000@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>need a man for get maried whit me please someone to help me i need to live in usa in castro my dream and my wich please jhonieaplese help me .<br /> and when you found someone for me plaese a nice and buytifful man for me i have a plaesend for you </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-married-man#post-998 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:30:27 +0000 shauna 998@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>hello , i need someone for get maried please everybody i want you help me i'm a trans man simple and very cool sweety and gentill please help me for my dream iwant to live in sanfrancisco<br /> for about 1year it is my wich </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-married-man#post-994 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:59:46 +0000 JhonieAppleseed37 994@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Yes, somtimes guys do need a woman's opion on this!</p> <p>Deleted post from bottom of profile list.<br /> <a href="http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/american-airlines-15-bag-check-fee" rel="nofollow">http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/american-airlines-15-bag-check-fee</a> </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-married-man#post-993 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:05:30 +0000 shauna 993@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>ilook king for a man for me because i get maried for my self and i want to say thank you te man when he want to maried white me tank you so much </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-married-man#post-987 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:39:20 +0000 drewjock 987@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>All men's Bath-houses ___ late at night and when you are out of town, better, out of state! are probably going to be your best bet for M4M contact.Contray to what you might expect, your identity is safer there, then at a bar, and there's no pressure to "perform".... Play as safely as you can. Don't despair or be reckless, bord/ totti ...you are not def' alone! </p> <p>Not that they would or could..... but if there was ever a way B-houses could take a poll of all their clientele as to their actual relationship-status, currrnt/ previous.... you'd be AMAZED at the # of married men... and who still genuinely love their wives &amp; families ....even while periodically engaging in a lil bit xtra loving care from another dude.<br /> It's one of America's biggest delusions propagated by the corporatist media ...lol ] that sexuality is either/or, black, or white.... and static thruout a mans life !!<br /> Good luck... </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-resorts#post-979 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:53:46 +0000 Jerzy 979@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>I heard this @ one of the bars when on vacation..Those that are offering great deals are surviving doing well &amp; others not so well were attendance have gone down dramatically..right now money is tight..BUT DON T PANIC..when times seems worse they get better.. </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-resorts#post-978 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:15:13 +0000 jimena 978@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Where did you hear this? Which ones will be closing? That's really disappointing. I thought that because of the economic crunch some resorts would have really great deals for a cheap holiday... </p> http://www.gaycities.com/forums/topic/gay-resorts#post-973 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:24:56 +0000 Jerzy 973@http://www.gaycities.com/forums/ <p>Some of them will-be closing feeling the economic crunch... </p>